Author Joshua Moehling lives in Minneapolis, Minn., where he works as a program manager in the medical device industry. His thrilling debut crime novel, And There He Kept Her (Poisoned Pen Press, June 14, 2022), introduces his memorable protagonist, deputy Ben Packard.
What sparked the idea for the opening scene in And There He Kept Her and why was this the way you wanted readers to enter this world?
I knew the first chapter had to be a grabber. It's the first one I wrote, and it didn't change much over time. The rain, the ticking furnace, the door with no handle on the inside were details that made my hair stand up, and I hoped it would be the same for readers.
What about Ben Packard made him the character you wanted to craft this story around?
I wrote a novel before this, also set in Sandy Lake, where Deputy Ben Packard only appeared in brief, and was the subject of a crude conversation between two characters wondering about his personal life. That book got a few requests for a full manuscript from agents but no offer of representation. After a while, I set that book aside and wrote this one to figure out who Ben Packard was, where he came from and what his secrets were. A drinking problem or a bad marriage are the typical things heroes get saddled with in this genre. Ben Packard had a different story--a gay man in law enforcement in a small town. When I went looking for examples of other books with a similar character or similar premise, I didn't find much.
Sandy Lake, Minn., is central to this book. What drew you to this setting and how did that choice affect the story you ultimately wrote?
You won't find Sandy Lake on any map, and I only have a vague sense of where it might be located. It's an amalgam of every small town I've ever known. Both my parents come from small towns, I went to college in a small town and we have a cabin near a small town. I live in a city, but rural living is in my blood. I've always been intrigued by what it takes to make a life for yourself in such a setting. We all know every small town has its own history that's collectively kept by the people who live there. It's a setting ripe with secrets and conflicts.
What made spending so much time with the novel's ostensible villain so essential to the story?
I knew going in that this story would be about a monster, who, through the passing of time and his failing health, has become vulnerable and is now the one being preyed upon. Writers in my writing group helped me realize that Emmett has considered himself a victim his whole life, even when he was victimizing others. I wanted readers to understand that about him, and I wanted Emmett to have to confront his past again. I wanted to see how he would behave in a similar situation and when confronted by an even bigger monster than himself.
What was your biggest challenge while writing And There He Kept Her?
My background in law enforcement comes from having read a lot of crime novels. That's it. As I was writing, I Googled a lot of things. I watched YouTube videos. I downloaded sheriff's office org charts and annual reports. The best thing I did was attend a local citizen's academy where I learned how a sheriff's department is run and the basic ins and outs of being a deputy. I asked a lot of questions. The rest I had to make up or leave out.
What books, authors or series did you read while conceiving of this story and its characters? How did you think of yourself in conversation with those other books?
You can't be a crime/thriller writer from Minnesota and not know the work of John Sandford and William Kent Krueger. I wanted my book to have the pacing of a Sandford Prey novel and the sense of place you get from Krueger. There were times, when I was struggling to figure out how to get into or out of a scene, where I could pick up one of their books, read a few pages and say, ah, that's how you do it.
How would you describe the process of writing this book? And will we see Ben Packard again?
I wish I could say this book was born fully formed right from my head but that would be a lie. It took several years and many, many revisions to get it to its current state. I was pantsing it in the beginning and often couldn't see more than a chapter or two ahead. Late ideas required threads to be pulled all the way back to the beginning. At one point I cut 30,000 words from the manuscript. There were times when I wanted to abandon it and write something else. Persistence finally paid off.
I have a draft of the next book completed already. I spent two months thinking about characters, making an outline and writing scenes that wouldn't make it into the book but that I needed to know for myself. Knowing who Packard was as a character also helped getting to a finished first draft in much less time. Whether it's any good remains to be seen.
There's definitely more Ben Packard to come. I hope people like And There He Kept Her enough to come back and see what he gets up to next. --Alice Martin