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Aaron John Curtis is an enrolled member of the Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe, which he'll tell you is the white name for the American side of Akwesasne. Since 2004, Curtis has been quartermaster at Books & Books, Miami's largest independent bookstore. His debut novel is Old School Indian, a spirited, funny, and gravely serious story about a man who travels from his longtime home in Miami back to the reservation in New York State where he was raised, to process a serious medical diagnosis. It will be published by Hillman Grad Books/Zando on May 6, 2025.
Abe's story closely mirrors your own. What are the pros and cons of writing autobiographical fiction?
The hard part is trying to disguise people who don't want to be recognized. [I've been told] that if you change someone's physical description, they never recognize themselves, because no one is aware of their own behavior. So I kept that in mind. But I was lucky in that for all the stories, I got permission. The hard part is some of the stuff goes to some pretty dark places. Hot-topic cold-prose is one thing, but it's easy to go surface, to just say, this happened. My editor was so good at "drill down here, dig a little deeper," and you do, and it's emotional, and you lose that day being sad. That's hard. At the beginning the hard part was actually doing it. Because I had in my mind if you did autofiction, it didn't count as a real book, like I wasn't a real author, it wasn't legitimate.
Because you didn't make it up?
Exactly. But this is all true and it's all made up! It's this weird mix. My writer's group was really like, just go for it. Once I had the first draft, I was like, oh, this is how I want to write books from now on.
Why this story now?
I did not realize it at the time, but I had been having symptoms for a few years by the time [my illness] started to present. I was in the mountains of northern California, harvesting pot actually, and I had this mark on my leg. Oh, I'll get that checked out when I get back to Miami. And because I'd been in the mountains, they thought it was MRSA. They treated it like MRSA, and it started to spread, and it was months of them trying to diagnose it. Dermatologist, rheumatologist, dermatologist, rheumatologist... they lived in the same high-rise... all this is in the book. They would have dinner and call me at like 10 at night, sounding like they were tipsy.
They have that sheet of paperwork where they check off what they're testing for. That second time they were testing, the doctor checked off the whole sheet. And when we got back the results, they were all negative. They didn't tell the doctor anything, and she just stared at me and said "you're fascinating." And I was like, "yeah, fascinating."
Just trying to deal with that anxiety--whatever I'd been trying to write before didn't matter. Just to get through my day to day, work a job, support my wife, and all that stuff--I had to get it out somewhere. And it was going toward the page. At the time I still wasn't diagnosed; I didn't know what was going to happen to the protagonist, either. And someone in the writer's group said, well, what if there was a healer? And I was like, oh my god. A Native healer. Thanks for that trope. In my head, I was like, that's borderline offensive. But then it was like, oh. Hmm. I know a healer. I'm related to a healer. Okay. Yeah. Imagine what getting him involved would look like.
How did you come up with Dominick as narrator? Seems like he was fun to write.
He's got a little attitude. In my first draft, the narrator was first person, and was pretty hostile toward the reader. I don't know if that was anger toward the disease or all these issues that had been on my mind about just being Native in life. I imagined a white reader and I had a lot of anger to take out. [Author] Diana Abu-Jaber kind of runs lead on my writer's group, and she suggested I do it third person, see what that unlocked. That group is mostly older, middle-aged professionals, and then I had a second writer's group that was younger and all women of color but for one guy. And they had read the first three chapters in that first person, and then the next were in third person, and they said it lost something. One person said, if I read that first book, I'd be running around telling everyone this is the best book ever. The second book, it was still good, but I wouldn't have had that same reaction. Oh. Hmm.
But I was really digging what the third person was doing. I don't know exactly when Dominick started. Maybe it was when I was doing the poetry.
Also, I don't live on the reservation, I never have, and I wanted someone who's a little more authentically Mohawk than Abe is. I hoped that would address the fact that I'm not born and raised there.
You operate as both novelist and poet. Which is your home?
The fiction comes a lot more naturally. I noticed, as I was editing the book, I was getting better at doing the poetry. And my original thought was, because Abe is working on it as well, as you read the book, the first set of poems would be kind of bad. And by the end you'd be like "wow, he can really do it now." By the time we came to the final draft of the book, each poem was as good as I could make it.
Poetry is something I want to do more of, definitely a challenge.
What haven't I asked?
Did Tóta really do a split when she was 72? Yeah, she did. And [her] punch is real. --Julia Kastner, blogger at pagesofjulia