Cartoonist Tillie Walden brings a slice of Vermont history to life in her first nonfiction title for adults, Charity & Sylvia, a thoroughly researched portrait of two women in the early 19th century (she even created a website dedicated to the full bibliography). Find out what led her to these fascinating figures from the early days of a new nation, the idiosyncratic way they treated their aches and pains, and so much more....
The Writer's Life
Tillie Walden: Queer Love in a New Nation
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| Tillie Walden |
Tillie Walden is a cartoonist and illustrator from Austin, Tex. She is the creator of a number of award-winning graphic novels including On a Sunbeam, Spinning, and the Clementine trilogy, set in the world of The Walking Dead. She is a graduate of the Center for Cartoon Studies in Vermont, where she now teaches and lives with her wife and son. She brings a slice of Vermont history to life in her first nonfiction title for adults, Charity & Sylvia (Drawn & Quarterly; reviewed in this issue), a thoroughly researched portrait of two women in the early 19th century.
One of the themes of the book is how much things changed over the course of their relationship: technology, 14 presidents, political events. Sylvia and Charity's story looks so calm and normal by comparison. We know, however, that their decision to spend their lives together was revolutionary in its way. How did you come upon their story?
I was very lucky to stumble upon it, and it was definitely a chain of interesting events that led me to them. To be honest, it starts with the fact that one of the only cartoon schools in the world is in Vermont, so that's where I moved when I was 18. After starting my career and falling in love with the state, I eventually became the state's fifth cartoonist laureate. Most states have poet laureates, Vermont is the only place you will find a cartoon one! After being sworn in at the statehouse, I got an e-mail from a guy named Christopher from Vermont Humanities. He wrote me with urgency, and said something along the lines of "I have a story from Vermont history that desperately needs to be told." And, of course, that story was Charity and Sylvia's. He had been passionate about them for a while, and I got on board VERY quickly.
How would you describe life in Weybridge, Vt., in 1807, when we first meet Charity and Sylvia? How is it different in 1851, when Sylvia dies?
Vermont became a state in 1791. When Charity arrives in 1807 and meets Sylvia, the state they're coming into is still developing. It's rural, it's rustic, it's slowly getting clear cut to make way for sheep. Rachel Hope Cleves, the historian who wrote about Charity and Sylvia, describes the area around Weybridge as pretty wild, especially for a young woman coming from Massachusetts. That being said, Vermont had already been largely settled and had displaced the native population by the time these women meet. I would describe life in Weybridge in the early 1800s in one word: hard. It was an endless toil, and having a tight-knit community was the true saving grace. By the time Sylvia dies in the mid-1800s, life is still tough, but Weybridge and the surrounding area has really grown in population and in amenities. There are quite a few more stores, more resources available, more homes, more churches, etc. But the America of 1851 was also on the brink of turmoil, with the Civil War not far off the horizon. What fascinates me is how these two women's lives are bookended by enormous American experiences. They are born alongside a nation, alongside death and triumph, and they die right before that nation rips apart again.
You've created an entire website to annotate the book. What do you hope readers take away from that resource?
Yeesh, it took me a hot second to get that bibliography together. I did it for the nerds; the website is probably not going to be of interest to most readers. But if you find yourself wondering "Was that true?" or "Wait, really, did that happen?" this website is sitting there to tell you EXACTLY what happened. It was also a way to get all the research off my chest. I felt like all this history was sitting inside me, and I was able to get a lot of it out in the graphic novel, but not every piece! And I was really ready to tell it all without feeling constricted by a page count. A website let me ramble, which was great. My only hope for the site is just that it remains up and free and accessible for anyone who wants to see it.
Tell us about the (in)famous cradle.
Well, when you don't have Advil and you have an ache, what do you do? A hot compress can only take you so far, so obviously you should have your brother-in-law build you an adult-sized cradle that you can fill with pillows, place by a fireplace, and lie in for a nap to soothe your ills. Cradles pop up in history, especially with the Shakers--they really liked them. I sadly don't know the exact origins of [Charity and Sylvia's] cradle, I don't know who really wanted it, or who painted it green. All I know is that they had it and used it constantly. The amount of times Sylvia wrote "had a refreshing nap in the cradle" in her journal is--well, it's a lot. And perhaps best of all, we HAVE THE CRADLE. It is still around and is being placed in a beautiful exhibition about this book as we speak. Should you want to see this cradle someday, just head to Middlebury, Vt., to the Henry Sheldon Museum. I promise it only kind of looks like a coffin. Kind of.
Faith and the congregation play an important role in your characters' lives. How did they reconcile their relationship and their faith in such a constrained era?
This is the biggest question of the book, at least in my mind. They never fully did reconcile this, I think. I saw in their papers a lifelong struggle to understand their attraction and commitment to one another. But in that struggle I also saw so many moments where they justified it. Both within themselves, and from the community around them. Charity and Sylvia were genuinely a part of their church leadership. They were trusted with young girls from the community to apprentice. They were seen as teachers, guides, and prickly strict church ladies. All of this points to acceptance. So in the ways that count, they had it. But deep within them, I sensed an ever-present doubt. Sylvia especially wrote of a feeling of sin, of being wrong, a lot.
The one gift I could give them was to find a way to tell their story that put the question of their lives to rest. There was nothing wrong with them, there never was. They did not live in sin, they lived in love and grace. And I'm only sorry that it took 200 years for me to know them and whisper those words to their bones. It's too late, but it's still worth it. --Suzanne Krohn, librarian