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Inheritances come in many forms, not all of them desirable. There's money and property, but there's also the inheritance of one's race or background. For a first-time novelist to tackle all these issues is an inspiring feat of ambition. That's what Ronald Lee Robertson has done with Goliath (Scribner, February 2, 2027), a hypnotically poetic retelling of the David and Goliath story, relocated to Mississippi in the early 20th century and featuring one of the most ingenious narrators in recent fiction. Robertson and his wife live in New Orleans.
What drew you to this material?
In the early 1900s (against his own brother's advice), my mother's grandfather bought 80 barren acres in southern Mississippi with the unshaken belief that the land would one day shelter not only his family and descendants, but also his disbelieving brother. My paternal grandfather founded one of the oldest churches in Baton Rouge, and my father followed in his footsteps. I was raised in that church, and when I was younger, to keep myself awake, I would read the Bible during service. First and Second Samuel were my favorite books. The epic of David and Goliath, the feud between King Saul and David, David's subsequent reign and ultimate fall, all of these stories were fascinating to me. How these elements came together to form Goliath is still a mystery.
What was it about this time period in U.S. history, the era of the Great Migration, that made it an appropriate choice for this novel?
I'm not sure if the characters come first or their setting. Characters are peculiar to their time. Each interaction they have with each other, each want, fear and proclivity; all are influenced by the specific historical moment. The era of the Great Migration is the appropriate era for the story because that is the era that birthed men with Big Man's demons, with David's idealism, and Micah's unyielding will. Who knows who these people would be had they been born today?
Did you do a lot of research, and if so, what sources did you turn to aside from the Bible story?
Top of mind are conversations with my family. I've been hearing some of the stories in Goliath for the last 36 years. Libraries of photo albums. The work of Henry Louis Gates, Zora Neale Hurston, and similar researchers (The Sacred and Profane was illuminating as to the secular and spiritual tensions in the novel). I love used bookstores and find all kinds of things there: almanacs, textbooks, biographies, etc. For me, the old adage is true: I throw nothing away; I compost.
Do you have a character you relate to most closely in this novel?
I don't know if I relate to them so much as admire their qualities. Sometimes I daydream about taking up as much space as Big Man. I wish I had Micah's fierceness. I try to emulate Jonathan's steadfastness and nurture a curiosity as insatiable as Absalom's. I adore Amnon's wildness, and envy Ladybird for her ability to comfort others. I often pray for David's bravery. I'm working on developing a fraction of Little Bit's empathy.
Can you talk a bit about the power dynamics in this book? What do you want to say about the nature of power in general and, more specifically, as it relates to Black families of this era, and today?
Power exists simultaneously on a number of planes. In the same way as power requires a subjugation, it also requires a joinder; at what point do the oppressed become the foundation? Understanding this duality, and existing within it, has been central to black survival in the United States. We have rooted ourselves here. Bare branches do not necessarily indicate a weak tree. I think of Toni Morrison's Tar Baby. The question is not so much who is powerful, but who is powerful when, and how?
The novel also touches upon the corruptibility of wealth. Do you see wealth as having a more corrosive rather than beneficial impact?
Wealth may be nothing more (or less) than: "I have this and you have that," inevitably followed by the question "why?" and shortly thereafter: "What now?" The way we engage or refuse to engage with these questions determines, on both a communal and individual level, whether wealth will benefit us, destroy us, or do any number of things in between.
Another of the book's major themes is that of ancestral legacy. What are your thoughts on the lure of family ties?
For many of us, inheritance is not so much a bequeathal as a series of sacrifices, handed down through familial narrative and manifesting in the increasing opportunity given to subsequent generations--a bill of love. However, at times this inheritance feels like a debt. What we've been given is clear, what we owe--if we owe--is another matter entirely. I believe David's decision to challenge Goliath reflects similar considerations, as does his siblings' reticence.
Another fascinating and clearly biblical element of the book is that of sibling rivalries. What do you hope readers will take away from this book about the nature of them?
When I think of the siblings in Goliath, I think less of rivalry than I do of love. One of my favorite Baldwin quotes (liberally applied) is: "Love does not begin and end the way we seem to think it does; love is a battle, love is a war, love is a growing up." In Goliath love is often not patient. At times it is neither kind nor gentle. It certainly keeps a record of wrongs. It clings; it captures, flees and rages. I tell my siblings I love them all the time. There's a world in that word.
If you can do so without giving away key plot developments, why did you portray the story arc of Little Bit, the book's narrator, in this way?
I wish I knew. He's narrated the story from the beginning.
Do you feel that the story of David and Goliath is uniquely suited to a modern-day commentary on race? Did you consider adapting other bible stories, or stories from other sources?
I never considered this story's unique suitability vis-à-vis racial commentary. All American novels, whatever the subject, are commentaries on race. Outside the boundaries of cultivated tolerance remains the chaotic milieu of class, ancestry, pseudo-science and culture that undergirds our country. Whether a writer chooses to engage explicitly with this fact is their prerogative; its existence is not. Even in the transposition of a story thousands of years before the invention of blackness, once on American shores, the concept of race becomes inescapable. --Michael Magras


